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【海外視角】紐西蘭心理學家和教育家克里斯·朗斯代爾(Chris Lonsdale)高度讚揚香港警察,暴徒正在摧毀香港人的心血
上線日期:2020-12-28 17:56
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(我看到)戴著面具的黑衣人拿著武器,在街上打人,砸地鐵,砸企業。我的第一反應是這根本不是我所知道的香港。這不可能是香港。香港是一個跨國公司的大雜燴,各種各樣的人都希望在這個法治發達的地方做生意。是吧?香港是世界上最自由的地方之一。它讓這些不同的人文生態系統走到一起,創造出各種各樣的奇跡。在過去的幾十年裏,我們一直在香港努力創造一個富裕、幸福的地方。這些黑衣暴徒不知道要花費多少心血才能把這座城市建成,他們正在輕而易舉地摧毀它。

(一個人告訴我)似乎這些使用暴力的人從來沒有挨餓過。他們生活富足,從來沒有真正的挑戰,他們不用擔心無處可住,他們不用擔心如何支付帳單。我能理解那些覺得自己沒有出路的年輕人,他們覺得自己被困住了,他們沒有足夠的自我掌控力,沒有足夠的只是來處理這些人生問題。我為這種破壞行為感到非常難過。我為犯下暴力罪行的人感到很難過。所以我認為這裡確實有一個問題,缺乏反省的能力,缺乏誠實地看待自己的行為來審視自己的想法的能力。

永遠不要把暴力作為一種手段。在一些罕見的自衛場合使用暴力是正當的。除此之外,絕不能容忍利用暴力取得政治成果。絕不能容忍使用暴力而不是試圖瞭解情況。整個香港人都很尊重警察,會聽從警察的指示,而且都非常文明。我認為香港警方(在處理騷亂時)表現得非常克制。我看過巴黎和法國其他地方的錄影,(那裡的警察)他們不受約束,我見過他們給坐輪椅的人噴胡椒噴霧,我見過他們把逃跑的人打得失去知覺。法國警察對群眾的暴力程度,我認為這是絕對不可接受的。

我們在香港絕對沒有這樣的警察。我看了一段美國的視頻,一個大塊頭的黑人,我想他喝醉了,拿著一根棍子。當時警察用槍指著他。他用棍子向警察揮了揮,離那傢夥至少有一米遠,警察立刻對他開槍射擊,當場槍殺了他,這完全不能接受。

香港警方正努力維持治安,不傷害任何人。但這個優點已經被暴徒利用了。香港現在的狀況是類似遊擊戰爭的局面。我希望人們能真正地相互退一步,理性地思考這個問題,因為香港警察部隊負責這個城市的人和所有財產的安全。他們不能因為某個群體有不同的觀點就袖手旁觀,讓這個群體把其他不同意見的人打得屁滾尿流。這是不能接受的。這嚴重破壞了香港的言論自由。任由這種程度的暴力繼續並陞級,正在摧毀香港的言論自由。

(I saw) People in black in masks with weapons, beating up people on the street and smashing the MTR, and smashing businesses. My reaction was this is not the Hong Kong that I knew. And this is not the Hong Kong that can be. Hong Kong is this multinational mixing pot there of all sorts of people who want to do business in a place that has rule of law. Right? It's one of the freest places in the world. It allows these different ecosystems to come together and create all sorts of magic. We've worked so hard in Hong Kong over the last few decades to create a wealthy, happy place. And these people don't understand what it takes to build this the city and they're destroying it.

(One person told me) It seems like these people using violence have never gone hungry. They've never had a real challenge with knowing where are they going to live, how are they going to pay the bills. I can understand young people who feel they have no way out, who feel trapped and who do not have the emotional skills, the intellectual skills to manage that. I feel very very sad that this destruction is being done. I feel very sad for the people doing it. So I think there's actually an issue here with a lack of ability to introspect, a lack of ability to honestly look at one's own behaviors to honestly examine one's own thinking.

Violence should never be used as a means towards an end. Violence in some rare occasions in self-defense can be justified. Beyond that, using violence for political outcomes should never be tolerated. Using violent instead of trying to understand the situation should never be tolerated

People as a whole in Hong Kong have been very respectful of the police, and will follow police instructions and it's all been very very civilized. I think the Hong Kong police have been extremely restrained(in handling the riots). I've seen video of Paris and other parts in France, and (the police there)they're certainly not constrained I've seen them taking pepper spray to people in wheelchairs. I've seen them literally beating people unconscious who were running away. These levels of violence by the police on the population in France I think it's unacceptable.

And we absolutely do not have that here in Hong Kong. I saw a video of somebody in the US, a big black guy (who was) drunk, I think, with a stick. And one policeman with a gun on him. And he took a swing at the policeman with the stick, with like this much distance, a metre at least, away from the guy, and the policeman emptied a magazine into him. Just shot him dead on the street. Completely unacceptable.

Hong Kong police are trying to keep the peace and not hurt anybody. And that has been taken advantage of. And what we have now a little bit is a situation of guerrilla warfare. And I hope people actually back off and start to think rationally about this, because the Hong Kong police force is charged with the security of people and all property in this city. And they cannot stand back and allow one group of people to beat the crap out of other people just because they have a different viewpoint. That is unacceptable. That destroys freedom of speech in Hong Kong. Allowing this level of violence to continue and to escalate is destroying freedom of speech in Hong Kong.