James C. Hsiung是紐約大學政治學教授。1997年，他曾在香港擔任客座教授。他就香港現時的情況向記著表達自己的看法。

問題：有人認為香港遊行事件的根源是一些香港人對內地沒有認同感。為什麼會這樣？

James C. Hsiung：根源在於英國殖民時期的教育。1997年，我在香港當客座教授。我借此機會研究了香港歷史，特別是英國殖民統治下的歷史。我發現，在英國殖民統治期間，他們在學校，高中和大學裡教育學生中國是外國，香港不屬於中國，例如中國在地理上被劃分為外國，與香港無關。因此，出於這個原因，一些香港同胞直到今天也不認為香港屬於中國，儘管這並不代表所有香港人的觀點。如今，越來越多的香港人有中國人的身份認同。但是英國統治時期教育的影響仍然揮之不去。

問題：香港自回歸祖國後，民主程度是否下降？

James C. Hsiung：不知何故，他們（示威者）感到在英國統治下香港人享有更多的民主，但是我認為這是謬論。你知道，在最近的示威活動中，有一個人舉起了一面國旗，竟然是英國國旗。看到照片，我就笑了。他們知道多少歷史？因為英國統治下香港並沒有示威遊行活動的自由。而很明顯，如今，香港人有示威遊行自由。即使這樣，部分人還推崇過去的英國統治，這真的很可笑。

問題：您如何看待當前的「一國兩制」模式？

James C. Hsiung：其實「一國兩制」並不是指兩個獨立的概念。首先，（它並不是單純指）一個國家；其次（也不單純指）兩種制度。它指的是在一個國家的前提下存在兩種制度。所以許多人要麼是無知，要麼就是裝作不知道。這導致「一國兩制」僅僅被解讀為兩種制度，（有人說）我們不需要「一個國家」這個前提。這非常令人痛心，令人扼腕歎息，而且大錯特錯。我認為越來越多的香港人也開始理解，至少在這次示威活動之後，在電視上，我看到許多人在說「一國兩制」必須強調「一個國家」。我希望這種趨勢會延續下去。

Question：Some are saying the root cause of the situation in Hong Kong is that some Hong Kong people do not identify as Chinese. Why is that?

It was because the education under the British. in 1997， I was in Hong Kong as a visiting professor. Therefore I looked into the history of Hong Kong governed by the British. And I found that during the British rule or colonial governance， they taught in the schools， high school and universities that China was a foreign country， and that Hong Kong did not belong to China， and also China was， in in geography， for example， China was classified as a foreign country and not related to Hong Kong. So for that reason many many of the Hong Kong people， even till this day， don't really think they belong to China， although that doesn't apply to everybody. Now， more and more people identify themselves with China. But the influence of the British education still lingers on.

Question：Has democracy in Hong Kong been eroded since its return to China?

Somehow they(protesters) felt they had more democracy under the British， but I think that's wrong. You know， during the current demonstration there was one person who held up the flag of the British Empire. And I laughed at the picture. I said how much they know? Because there was no freedom of demonstration under the British. And there is obviously the freedom of demonstration today. And still you long for the past the British rule and that’s very funny.

Question：What do you think of the current “One country Two systems” model?

You see， “One country Two systems” does not mean two things. (It doesn’t mean) one country， number one; Two systems， number two. It means two systems under one country， so a lot of people either don't know this or pretend to not to know this. So “One country Two systems” become two systems and (they say) we don't need one country. That's a very very sad， very tragic and is terribly wrong. So I think increasingly Hong Kong people are getting to know， at least after the current protest， on TV， I saw many people are saying that “One country Two systems” and emphasizing one country， and I hope this trend will continue.